Re: Perrin C Cooley

From: Mary Lou Cooley <mlcooley_at_q.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2014 22:32:47 -0700

Michael,

Yep, 30 years a nurse...where did the time go?

I like the 150/85 better than the 160/105...your headache could be causing
the BP to be higher. Definitely, talk to your doctor tomorrow but call
him/her sooner if you "just don't feel right" or get a feeling that you
should call. You know yourself better than anyone. Just don't ignore
anything that makes you feel uneasy. (This is your mother hen, ICU nurse
talking! :)

Mary Lou

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Cooley
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 10:05 PM
To: John Cooley Mailing List
Subject: Re: Perrin C Cooley

Mary Lou,

I'd forgotten you were a nurse.

I haven't been feeling too well today. A half hour ago by BP was 160/105.
I ate something and it has gone done to 150/85. Persistent, low-grade
headache. I'll talk to my doctor tomorrow, but packing up a bag just in
case.

-Michael

On Sun, June 22, 2014 9:56 pm, Mary Lou Cooley wrote:
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> Ditto for a speedy recovery. Take care of that RCA! =20
>
>
> Mary C.=20
>
>
> From: Cooley=20
> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 11:45 AM
> To: John Cooley Mailing List=20
> Subject: Re: Perrin C Cooley
>
>
> I wish you a speedy recovery Michael! You do more in a hospital room =
> than most of us do in the comfort of our homes. =20
>
> Regarding the man who claims to be a descendant of Daniel Cooley and =
> Mildred Ball. I'll bet that he is NOT a descendant of our John Cooley =
> (~1737 to ~ 1811), because his YCAII is 19-23 not our 19-21. That almost =
> always means a non-Scandinavian origin, but instead a Eastern European =
> origin. My guess is that he is NOT R1a-L448. I'd pay for a L448 SNP test
> =
> if you can't get him to take it on his own.=20
>
> -Don
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 3:54 PM, lvcooley5 <lvcooley5_at_cox.net> wrote:
>
>
> Jno/John T. Perrin and family are also on the 1870 Census living next =
> to Joseph King whose
> household includes 4 year old Nimrod Cooly. A family tree on A.com =
> traces Jno back
> to John Perrin (1690-1752) of Gloucester Co. Virginia. Could just be = a
> coincidence that he ends up living next to Perrin Cooley in 1860 but I'm
> intrigued.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mary Lou Cooley
> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 11:22 AM
> To: John Cooley Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Perrin C Cooley
>
>
>
> Please remind me who the John Cooley is next door to Perrin & Lucinda =
> Cooley
> on the 1850 census - John (48 NC) & Milly P. (30 KY) Cooley.
>
> Also - Next door to Perrin Cooley on the 1860 census is Jno T. (33 =
> KY),
> Margaret (29 MO), Christopher (11 MO) & Thomas (3 MO) Perrin. Last =
> name appears to be "Rerrin" but it is written exactly like "Perrin"
> (Perrin
> Cooley) next door.
>
>
>
> Mary C.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lvcooley5
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 11:35 PM
> To: John Cooley Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Perrin C Cooley
>
>
>
> Though there have been stranger scenarios, it seems most likely that
> Perrin C. is the son of a deceased son of Perrin Sr. The 1800 Stokes
> Census lists 2 males under 10, which would have been James (1797)
> and, presumably, Perrin C's father (let's call him Joseph?)
>
>
> Are there any unaccounted-for Missouri marriages circa 1820?
>
>
>
> PS Has anyone ever mentioned before that there is an unincorporated
> town in Gloucester County, Virginia, called Perrin? It's due east of
>
> Hayes in the area that also includes the Perrin River. There was a
> prominent Perrin family there pre-1700 but so far I haven't found any
> gold.
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Cooley
> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 5:48 PM
> To: John Cooley Mailing List
> Subject: Perrin C Cooley
>
>
>
> The parentage of Perrin C Cooley has been one of the group's enduring
>
>
> mysteries. The name Perrin, his birth in Missouri, and his = descendants'
> Y
>
>
> DNA make it certain that he is one of ours.
>
>
>
> We know from Gloria's discovery of the probate record of Perrin Sr's =
> son,
>
> James, had brothers John (m Martha Bearden) and Perrin. Of course, =
> most of us assumed that Perrin was Perrin Jr--and that may be true.
>
>
> Then Gloria made another discovery a few months ago--that her =
> autosomes have a matching segment to Jack Cooley, Perrin C's descendant.
> The
> predicted relationship is 4th to 5th cousins. Here's a page I put =
> together at that time:
>
>
> http://ancestraldata.com/staging/N70352-autosomes.html
>
>
>
> The first question that needed be settled was whether the match indeed
> came down through the Cooleys. That's been largely resolved. Gloria's
> mother, a Cooley descendant, has tested. Her results exhibit the same
> markers that Gloria has. That greatly increases the likelihood that = the
> match comes down through a Cooley common ancestor.
>
>
> But the match, as I explain in this paragraph, reveal nothing more =
> about
>
> the degree of relationship with Jack. Typically, a child is going to
> inherit a smaller portion (if any at all) of the matching segment. = (The
> genome needs to make room for a host of new ancestral DNA derived from =
> the second parent.) For example, my dad's autosomes have a reasonably =
> large
>
> match to Jack's uncle. I inherited less than a third of it. However,
>
> Gloria inherited virtually all of her mother's matching segment, which =
> (I
> would think) is typically within the range of common possibilities. = The
>
>
> upshot of that is that the predicted relation between Gloria's mother =
> and
>
> Jack is pretty much the same as that for Gloria and Jack.
>
>
>
> In playing around with the results, I can tweak the parameters of the
> online tools I use and search for very small matching segments which,
>
> individually, are quite trivial. However, Gloria has only about one =
> third
>
> of those matches to Jack then her mother does. I'm my no means an = expert
>
>
> in autosomal DNA, but there might be something there that can hep us
> fine-tune the relationship prediction.
>
>
> For now, we're still left with the dilemma: who was Perrin C's father. =
> If
>
>
> we can determine the degree of relationship, we might be able to = answer
>
> that question. I've started a project to help us examine the autosomes =
> of
>
> John's descendants. If any of you have tested, please consider joining =
> by sending me an email.
>
>
> http://johncooley.net/johnsauto/
>
>
>
> I'm still of the opinion that Perrin might have had a fifth as of yet
> identified son. The 1800 and 1810 census records suggest at the
> possibility. The 1840 census for "Derrin" Cooley of Randolph County, = MO
> has two men 20-29. One would have been Perrin Jr. Could the other be
>
> Perrin C, who would have been 20 that year? The census entries for =
> Perrin
>
>
> Sr includes a boy 10-14. Was he a grandson? If so, could he have been =
> the son of this missing 5th son of Perrin's? We know that John Cooley
> (1827-1900+) m Sarah Ann Treadwell was born in Missouri. Is this him? =
> If
>
>
> so, might he and Perrin C have been brothers? I'm on the hunt for a Y
> descendant of John's.
>
>
> http://ancestraldata.com/ahnentafel/256/1840-MO.html
>
>
>
> BTW, we've found a tester in the Cooley/Hardin line.
>
>
>
> -Michael
>
>
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> <DIV>Ditto for a speedy recovery.&nbsp; Take care of that RCA!&nbsp; =
> </DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>Mary C. </DIV>
> <DIV=20
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> <DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
> title=3Dcool.hg.r1a_at_gmail.com=20
> href=3D"mailto:cool.hg.r1a_at_gmail.com">Cooley</A> </DIV>
> <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, June 22, 2014 11:45 AM</DIV>
> <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dundisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net=20
> href=3D"mailto:undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net">John Cooley =
> Mailing List</A>=20
> </DIV>
> <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: Perrin C Cooley</DIV></DIV></DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
> <DIV=20
> style=3D"FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; =
> COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: =
> none"> <DIV dir=3Dltr>I wish you a speedy recovery Michael! You do more in
> a = hospital=20 room than most of us do in the comfort of our
> homes.&nbsp;=20 <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>Regarding the man who claims to be a descendant of Daniel Cooley =
> and=20 Mildred Ball. I'll bet that he is NOT a descendant of our John
> Cooley =
> (~1737 to=20
> ~ 1811), because his YCAII is 19-23 not our 19-21. That almost always =
> means a=20 non-Scandinavian origin, but instead a Eastern European origin.
> My guess =
> is that=20 he is NOT R1a-L448. I'd pay for a L448 SNP test if you can't
> get
> him to = take it=20 on his own. </DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>-Don</DIV></DIV>
> <DIV class=3Dgmail_extra><BR><BR>
> <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 3:54 PM, lvcooley5 =
> <SPAN=20
> dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A href=3D"mailto:lvcooley5_at_cox.net"=20
> target=3D_blank>lvcooley5_at_cox.net</A>&gt;</SPAN> wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE=20
> style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; =
> PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"=20
> class=3Dgmail_quote>Jno/John T. Perrin and family are also on the 1870 =
> Census=20
> living next to<BR>Joseph King whose<BR>household includes 4 year old =
> Nimrod=20
> Cooly.&nbsp; A family tree on A.com traces<BR>Jno back<BR>to John =
> Perrin=20
> (1690-1752) of Gloucester Co. Virginia.&nbsp; Could just be =
> a<BR>coincidence=20 that he<BR>ends up living next to Perrin Cooley in
> 1860
> but I'm=20 intrigued.<BR><BR>Jim<BR> <DIV><BR>-----Original
> Message-----<BR>From: Mary Lou Cooley<BR>Sent: =
> Friday,=20
> June 20, 2014 11:22 AM<BR>To: John Cooley Mailing List<BR>Subject: Re: =
> Perrin=20
> C Cooley<BR><BR></DIV>
> <DIV>Please remind me who the John Cooley is next door to Perrin &amp; =
> Lucinda=20
> Cooley<BR>on the 1850 census - John (48 NC) &amp; Milly P. (30 KY)=20
> Cooley.<BR><BR>Also - Next door to Perrin Cooley on the 1860 census is =
> Jno T.=20
> (33 KY),<BR>Margaret (29 MO), Christopher (11 MO) &amp; Thomas (3 MO)=20
> Perrin.&nbsp; Last name<BR>appears to be "Rerrin" but it is written =
> exactly=20 like "Perrin" (Perrin<BR>Cooley) next door.<BR><BR></DIV>Mary
> C.<BR>
> <DIV><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: lvcooley5<BR>Sent: =
> Monday, June=20
> 16, 2014 11:35 PM<BR>To: John Cooley Mailing List<BR>Subject: Re: =
> Perrin C=20
> Cooley<BR><BR></DIV>
> <DIV>Though there have been stranger scenarios, it seems most likely=20
> that<BR>Perrin C. is the son of a deceased son of Perrin Sr.&nbsp; The =
> 1800=20
> Stokes<BR>Census lists 2 males under 10, which would have been James=20
> (1797)<BR>and, presumably, Perrin C's father (let's call him=20
> Joseph?)<BR><BR></DIV>
> <DIV>Are there any unaccounted-for Missouri marriages circa=20
> 1820?<BR><BR></DIV>
> <DIV>PS&nbsp; Has anyone ever mentioned before that there is an=20
> unincorporated<BR>town in Gloucester County, Virginia, called =
> Perrin?&nbsp;=20
> It's due east of<BR></DIV>
> <DIV>Hayes in the area that also includes the Perrin River.&nbsp; =
> There was=20
> a<BR>prominent Perrin family there pre-1700 but so far I haven't =
> found<BR>any=20 gold.<BR><BR></DIV>Jim<BR> <DIV><BR><BR>-----Original
> Message-----<BR>From: Michael =
> Cooley<BR>Sent:=20
> Saturday, June 14, 2014 5:48 PM<BR>To: John Cooley Mailing =
> List<BR>Subject:=20
> Perrin C Cooley<BR><BR></DIV>
> <DIV>The parentage of Perrin C Cooley has been one of the group's=20
> enduring<BR></DIV>mysteries. The name Perrin, his birth in Missouri, = and
> his=20 descendants' Y<BR> <DIV>DNA make it certain that he is one of
> ours.<BR><BR></DIV>We know = from=20 Gloria's discovery of the probate
> record of Perrin Sr's son,<BR> <DIV>James, had brothers John (m Martha
> Bearden) and Perrin. Of =
> course, most=20 of<BR>us assumed that Perrin was Perrin Jr--and that may
> be=20 true.<BR><BR></DIV> <DIV>Then Gloria made another discovery a few
> months ago--that her=20 autosomes<BR>have a matching segment to Jack
> Cooley, Perrin C's =
> descendant.=20 The<BR>predicted relationship is 4th to 5th cousins. Here's
> a page I = put=20 together<BR>at that time:<BR><BR></DIV><A=20
> href=3D"http://ancestraldata.com/staging/N70352-autosomes.html"=20
> =
> target=3D_blank>http://ancestraldata.com/staging/N70352-autosomes.html</A=
>
>> <BR>
>>
> <DIV><BR>The first question that needed be settled was whether the =
> match=20 indeed<BR>came down through the Cooleys. That's been largely
> resolved. =
>
> Gloria's<BR>mother, a Cooley descendant, has tested. Her results =
> exhibit the=20 same<BR>markers that Gloria has. That greatly increases the
> likelihood = that=20 the<BR>match comes down through a Cooley common =
> ancestor.<BR><BR></DIV> <DIV>But the match, as I explain in this
> paragraph, reveal nothing = more=20 about<BR></DIV> <DIV>the degree of
> relationship with Jack. Typically, a child is going =
>
> to<BR>inherit a smaller portion (if any at all) of the matching =
> segment.=20 (The<BR>genome needs to make room for a host of new ancestral
> DNA =
> derived from=20 the<BR>second parent.) For example, my dad's autosomes
> have
> a = reasonably=20 large<BR></DIV>match to Jack's uncle. I inherited less
> than a third of = it.=20 However,<BR>
> <DIV>Gloria inherited virtually all of her mother's matching segment, =
> which=20 (I<BR>would think) is typically within the range of common =
> possibilities.=20 The<BR></DIV>upshot of that is that the predicted
> relation between = Gloria's=20
> mother and<BR> <DIV>Jack is pretty much the same as that for Gloria and =
> Jack.<BR><BR></DIV>
> <DIV>In playing around with the results, I can tweak the parameters of =
>
>
> the<BR>online tools I use and search for very small matching segments=20
> which,<BR></DIV>individually, are quite trivial. However, Gloria has =
> only=20 about one third<BR> <DIV>of those matches to Jack then her mother
> does. I'm my no means an =
>
> expert<BR></DIV> <DIV>in autosomal DNA, but there might be something there
> that can hep =
>
> us<BR>fine-tune the relationship prediction.<BR><BR></DIV>For now, = we're
> still=20 left with the dilemma: who was Perrin C's father. If<BR> <DIV>we
> can determine the degree of relationship, we might be able to=20
> answer<BR></DIV>that question. I've started a project to help us = examine
> the=20 autosomes of<BR> <DIV>John's descendants. If any of you have
> tested,
> please consider = joining=20 by<BR>sending me an email.<BR><BR></DIV><A=20
> href=3D"http://johncooley.net/johnsauto/"=20
> target=3D_blank>http://johncooley.net/johnsauto/</A><BR>
> <DIV><BR>I'm still of the opinion that Perrin might have had a fifth =
> as of=20 yet<BR>identified son. The 1800 and 1810 census records suggest
> at=20 the<BR>possibility. The 1840 census for "Derrin" Cooley of Randolph
> =
> County,=20
> MO<BR>has two men 20-29. One would have been Perrin Jr. Could the =
> other=20 be<BR></DIV>Perrin C, who would have been 20 that year? The
> census
> =
> entries for=20 Perrin<BR>
> <DIV>Sr includes a boy 10-14. Was he a grandson? If so, could he have =
> been=20 the<BR>son of this missing 5th son of Perrin's? We know that
> John=20
> Cooley<BR>(1827-1900+) m Sarah Ann Treadwell was born in Missouri. Is =
> this=20 him? If<BR></DIV> <DIV>so, might he and Perrin C have been
brothers?
> I'm on the hunt for =
> a=20 Y<BR>descendant of John's.<BR><BR></DIV><A=20
> href=3D"http://ancestraldata.com/ahnentafel/256/1840-MO.html"=20
> =
> target=3D_blank>http://ancestraldata.com/ahnentafel/256/1840-MO.html</A><=
> BR>
> <DIV><BR>BTW, we've found a tester in the Cooley/Hardin=20
> line.<BR><BR></DIV>-Michael<BR> <DIV class=3DHOEnZb>
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