My grandfather had also told me that we were considered as <Black Irish> and that at some pt. we had changed our name. I later found out in research that Thomas Jefferson Cooley son of Edmond during one or 2 of the censuses had put his family name as Wooley instead of Cooley. I believe that is what he might of been talking about.Here close to where I live are many of the graves of Thomas Jeffersons Cooleys children and grandchildren. Sometime between 1870 and 1880 at least 4 and maybe more of the Cooleys from Spartenburg moved to LAMAR county Texas. U can find em in the census there. Thomas had died before then but his wife and children are there.They lived there for a time then after Elizebeth died they moved to Rotan, Texas. I have been to the cemetaries there and seen the tombstones of many Cooleys there. The rest moved to Jones County Texas and that is where the rest including my grandfather Edward Jefferson Cooley are buried. Kinda interesting wonder how he got his name Edward Jefferson. Looks like he was named after his great grandfather.His older brother was named Robert (His grandfathers name). I have much information on this line of Cooleys. If ya cant see my tree on Ancestor .com let me know and I try to put all I have in a E-Mail.
On Saturday, December 20, 2014 1:15 AM, Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com> wrote:
Ugh. I'm not sure how that bang came into the subject line. It was meant
to be at the end of the email. (I'm a sloppy typer. Anything can happen. I
spend half the time on my emails looking for such nugget of idiocy.
-Michael
On Sat, December 20, 2014 00:12, Michael Cooley wrote:
> I'm sure that everyone by now understands that our Cooley Y-DNA is
> Norse-Scottish. Some of you will remember the legend passed down through a
> line from John's son Edward that our Cooleys were Jacobites and that the
> older males were executed and the children transported to the colonies.
> Apparently, a piece of tartan was passed down through the line but was
> buried with its last inheritor in the 1970s.
>
> My great-aunt had written that there were three brothers who came to the
> colonies from England. She thought it was Edward and two brothers but we
> know that's not possible. She had no knowledge of John.
>
> Both families, above, lived near one another in Missouri. The stories may
> have come from the same source.
>
> Some of you will also remember my research on Reuben Ransom Cooley who
> lived in the same county in Indiana as my John. We now know from DNA that
> Reuben was of the Benjamin clan. But a letter in 1946 stated that 8
> brothers and 3 sisters immigrated to NC from Birmingham, England and that
> one died in New Orleans during the War of 1812.
>
> Eight boys and 3 girls sounds very much like John's family, and we know
> that John's son Cornelius died of illness in N.O. just following the end of
> the war. Certainly, no descendants of Benjamin's could be described that
> way. I believe that the two Cooley families, who by 1946 had lived near
> one another for more than a hundred years, had come to believe they were
> related and that our story was inherited by the descendants of Reuben.
>
>
> A descendant of John II wrote in a Missouri county history that John
> immigrated from England.
>
> Now we have another story.
>
>
> I recently heard from a descendant of Edmond Cooley. We know that a
> descendant of his has exact matching DNA which leads us to believe that he
> was another son. (I still maintain that Edmond *could* have been Rice.)
> This man, who lives in Texas, provided this:
>
>
> --quote--
> My grandfather told me it was passed down to him that we were forced to
> leave Ireland as criminals. We settled in Carolinas. --endquote--
>
>
> These stories considered along with the fact that at least two John
> Cooleys were transported at the pleasure of the king gives a very strong
> hint of criminality to our heritage. Perhaps indentureship.
>
> Somewhere, there's a shared kernel of truth to all of these stories. We
> need to keep finding descendants. Someone out there might indeed possess
> the key!
>
> -Michael
>
>
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