Yes, Sterry is on my radar, too.
I received the following response to my query on the facebook R1a group.
One of the group admins responded. It turns out the the Hackett tester has
tested Big Y. Presumably, he's YP609+. I still haven't heard back from
him. And I like the comment about how the Cooleys and Hacketts may be
carving out a niche. It might well be that Hackett could be the next best
thing to finding a Cooley or Cowley in England.
R1a Cooley is rare in the US. I've often commented that I think John was
probably a lone wolf and then wondered a year or two ago whether he was
merely of a small population since we were getting so few near matches to
other surnames.
I'm going to start looking more to Derbyshire and checking to see what
Derbyshire residents immigrated to America during the period. *If* John
was from there and *if* he was part of a larger movement, a pattern might
appear, as it has for the Caroline county VA movement to the Town Creek
Settlement. Maybe it's another false lead. But like the wise man said,
"Following a false lead is better than following no lead at all." Or was
that me? :-)
--quote--
Cooley's family nearest match: Mr. Hackett has the BIG-Y results.
It looks that you're creating specific subclade with him
with unusual set of few STRs:
DYS390=24
DYS385=11-13
DYS449=33 (or higher)
DYS576=17
DYS511=11
Of course it's prediction only - it would be good to confirm it with SNPs
but we're sure thanks to your SNPs (Z284+ L448+) and GENO2 results of
Cooley sample # N3690 that clan is under L448 line but negative for
CTS4179
YP355 is a 2nd big clade under "Young Scandinavian" L448 branch, what makes
that prediction quite strong
Marker YP355 is available, YP609 unfortunatelly NOT.
--endquote--
On Wed, January 7, 2015 15:22, Cooley wrote:
> Men with surnames Whitfield, Hackett, Cochran and Sterry have matched our
> Cooley Y-DNA. I checked http://www.ancestry.com/learn/facts/ to see
> where these surnames are most common and it is Lancashire, England and
> Lanarkshire, Scotland. The first names of our John Cooley's children are
> by far most common in Lancashire, England of anywhere on Earth. That area
> also has a fair amount of our Norse type Y-DNA. Of course this doesn't
> prove our Cooley line came to America from Lancashire in England, but it
> seems likely our Cooleys at one time lived there or somewhere not too far
> from there.
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 2:15 AM, Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>> Neither SNP is available at Y-SEQ. I see their price has gone up to $35
>> anyway. They've lost their competitive edge.
>>
>> If descendants of two of John's sons tested, we'd have all pre-John
>> SNPs
>> above the intersection of the two lines. Here's a little diagram I've
>> put together...
>>
>> http://ancestraldata.com/staging/y.html
>>
>>
>> The red line represents John. The SNPs above the line preceded him.
>> Those
>> below the line will differ between the two testers. It's that junction
>> where start matching that we'll know we're in John territory. A
>> handful of SNPs might be found that might tell us how the PA Cooleys are
>> related.
>>
>> I haven't heard from the Hackett yet. Derbyshire had a John Cowley born
>> around the same time as our John. His father was William.
>>
>> The easiest thing is to use the donation link at FTDNA. I have control
>> over those funds. I'll put in a small amount next week. Those who add
>> funds, state something like, "For Big-Y test CF01 only." Or specify the
>> name of a tester, if you prefer.
>>
>>
>> https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join-request.aspx?group=Cooley&vGro
>> up=Cooley
>>
>> -Michael
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, January 6, 2015 19:25, Cooley wrote:
>>
>>> I will order YP609 when it becomes available on FTDNA. (I just
>>> checked and it isn't now.) And if that is positive I'll order YP1100.
>>> Regarding
>>> the Big Y test, give me a couple of months to decide what to do. At
>>> that point, I'll either order it paying for it entirely my myself or
>>> I'll
>>> contribute some money to help one of the male Cooleys get the test. (I
>>> don't care which one.) To be really meaningful, at least a few
>>> Cooleys
>>> need to take the Big Y test. (And at least one from the PA Cooleys.)
>>>
>>> By-the-way, I'm on Facebook if anyone wants to friend me. I'm listed
>>> as "Don Cooley" of Fremont, CA. But be warned, I occasionally post
>>> political stuff friendly to Progressives and unfriendly to
>>> Conservatives. But 90%
>>>
>> of
>>> my posts are on science, math and history. I post 10 to 20 articles a
>>> day.
>>>
>>> Happy New Year,
>>> Don
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 6:48 PM, Michael Cooley
>>> <michael_at_newsummer.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> FYI...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It looks like YP609 has been placed downstream of YP355 and
>>>> upstream of YP618, which Don tested negative for. The R1a admins
>>>> have designated us as YP609*. I'm not sure why. YP1100 is downstream
>>>> of YP609.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> L448
>>>> ..YP335
>>>> ....YP609
>>>> ......YP1100
>>>> ....YP618
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://yfull.com/tree/R1a/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Administrator, the Akins DNA Project
>>>> Administrator, the Ashenhurst DNA Project
>>>> Administrator, the Bishop DNA Project
>>>> Administrator, the Eldridge DNA Project
>>>> Administrator, the Fisk DNA Project
>>>> Administrator, the alt-McDowell DNA Project
>>>> Co-Administrator, the Cooley DNA Project
>>>> Co-Administrator, the McDougall DNA Project
>>>> Co-Administrator, the Pickens DNA Project
>>>> Co-Administrator, the Strother DNA Project
>>>> Instructor, the Osher Lifelong Learning Institute (OLLI)
>>>> B.A. Humboldt State University, History
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> See http://johncooley.net/list for list information.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Administrator, the Akins DNA Project
>> Administrator, the Ashenhurst DNA Project
>> Administrator, the Bishop DNA Project
>> Administrator, the Eldridge DNA Project
>> Administrator, the Fisk DNA Project
>> Administrator, the alt-McDowell DNA Project
>> Co-Administrator, the Cooley DNA Project
>> Co-Administrator, the McDougall DNA Project
>> Co-Administrator, the Pickens DNA Project
>> Co-Administrator, the Strother DNA Project
>> Instructor, the Osher Lifelong Learning Institute (OLLI)
>> B.A. Humboldt State University, History
>>
>>
>> --
>> <a href="http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9b</a>
>> See http://johncooley.net/list for list information.
>>
>>
>
--
Administrator, the Akins DNA Project
Administrator, the Ashenhurst DNA Project
Administrator, the Bishop DNA Project
Administrator, the Eldridge DNA Project
Administrator, the Fisk DNA Project
Administrator, the alt-McDowell DNA Project
Co-Administrator, the Cooley DNA Project
Co-Administrator, the McDougall DNA Project
Co-Administrator, the Pickens DNA Project
Co-Administrator, the Strother DNA Project
Instructor, the Osher Lifelong Learning Institute (OLLI)
B.A. Humboldt State University, History
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