Thanks, David. One day in a future edition of your book you'll be able to
mention that Scott's ancestral home was in such-and-such village in the
British Isles. :)
-Michael
On Sun, August 9, 2015 06:07, David Johnson wrote:
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> Got this email.
> From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com>
> To: John Cooley Mailing List <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net>=20
> Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 10:35 PM
> Subject: Big Y ordered
> =20
> I've ordered the Big Y, more than 10 million positions are tested looking
> for newly discovered SNPs (mutations). The Y-STRs we've looked at are great
> for determining general family groupings. We now know without reservation,
> for example, that our Cooley clan is not related to the Benjamin clan. But
> they don't tell us to what degree the Pennsylvania CF01s are related to
> us. We know from the Hackett results that the connection may go back
> several hundred years, perhaps more than a thousand.
>
> I've provided a graph I hope will aid in the understanding of this:
>
>
> http://ancestraldata.com/staging/cooley-hackett-SNP.html
>
>
> Just like genealogical trees, every point branches out, eventually
> resembling=C2=A0 a tangled network than a hierarchical tree. But here
> we're following one branch down to about 1250 AD when the Cooley/Hackett
> line splits into two.
>
> The SNPs in the pink box were unknown until the Cooley/Hackett tests.
> More
> testers from other lineages are needed to discover how they are to be
> arranged (did YP4249 mutate before or after YP4210?). From all that we
> know about the relationship between Don and myself, I will have those
> same SNPs.
>
>
> But here's the good part: Most of the SNPs above Don's name also came to
> him through John, having came to John, in turn, since the development of
> the "pink" SNPs. (We know that because the Hackett tester has none of
> them.) When I test, most of my SNPs that are other than the pink and
> above will look like Don's unknown SNPs. Those we share will be given
> names and will be assigned as having belonged to John. We will then have a
> long line from way back to the birth of John. What's left will have come
> down to Don or me since the birth of John's sons James and Edward,
> respectively.
>
> What will this mean to our research? We'll have a list of markers from
> 1950 (my birth) and 1952 (Don's birth) going back to the literal Dawn of
> Man. Once one of the "Pennsylvania" Cooleys tests, we'll be able to place
> him along that continuum of SNPs. It wouldn't be a precise measurement, but
> it should tell us whether they are closely related (meaning what, I'm not
> sure) or displaced by X number of centuries.
>
> ONE UNRELATED ITEM: I made some changes to my email filters. I'm now
> getting a lot less spam but, it seems, fewer personal emails, too. I'd like
> some of you to respond to this, especially to my personal email address,
> to get a sense whether things are working correctly.
>
> -Michael
>
>
> - Administrator or Co-Administrator for the following family DNA
> projects:
> Akins, Ashenhurst, Bishop, Eldridge, Fisk, alt-McDowell, Cooley,
> McDougall, Pickens, Strother - B.A. Humboldt State University, History,
> 2013 - Instructor, the Osher Lifelong Learning Institute (OLLI) at HSU
>
>
> --
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>
>
>
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> ail.</span></div><br> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue,
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> id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1439121909122_= 7320">From:</span></b> Michael Cooley
> <michael_at_newsummer.com><br> <b>=
> <span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> John Cooley Mailing List
> =
> <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net> <br> <b><span
> style=3D"font-w= eight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, August 8, 2015
> 10:35 PM<br> <b><sp=
> an style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Big Y ordered<br>
> </fon=
> t> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"
> id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1439121909122_7= 330"><br>I've ordered the Big Y, more
> than 10 million positions are tested = looking<br>for newly discovered
> SNPs (mutations). The Y-STRs we've looked a=
> t are<br>great for determining general family groupings. We now know
> withou= t<br>reservation, for example, that our Cooley clan is not related
> to the<b= r>Benjamin clan. But they don't tell us to what degree the
> Pennsylvania<br>=
> CF01s are related to us. We know from the Hackett results that
> the<br>conne= ction may go back several hundred years, perhaps more than
> a<br>thousand.<b= r><br>I've provided a graph I hope will aid in the
> understanding of this:<b= r><br><a
> href=3D"http://ancestraldata.com/staging/cooley-hackett-SNP.html" =
> target=3D"_blank">http://ancestraldata.com/staging/cooley-hackett-SNP.html
> <=
> /a><br><br>Just like genealogical trees, every point branches out,
> eventual= ly<br>resembling a tangled network than a hierarchical
> tree. But here= we're<br>following one branch down to about 1250 AD when
> the Cooley/Hacket= t line<br>splits into two.<br><br>The SNPs in the pink
> box were unknown unt= il the Cooley/Hackett tests. More<br>testers from
> other lineages are needed= to discover how they are to be<br>arranged (did
> YP4249 mutate before or af=
> ter YP4210?). From all that we<br>know about the relationship between Don
> a= nd myself, I will have those same<br>SNPs.<br><br>But here's the good
> part:=
> Most of the SNPs above Don's name also came to<br>him through John,
> having= came to John, in turn, since the development of<br>the "pink"
> SNPs. (We kn=
> ow that because the Hackett tester has none of<br>them.) When I test, most
> =
> of my SNPs that are other than the pink and above<br>will look like Don's
> u= nknown SNPs. Those we share will be given names and<br>will be assigned
> as = having belonged to John. We will then have a long line<br>from way
> back to = the birth of John. What's left will have come down to Don<br>or
> me since th= e birth of John's sons James and Edward,
> respectively.<br><br>What will thi= s mean to our research? We'll have a
> list of markers from<br>1950 (my birth= ) and 1952 (Don's birth) going
> back to the literal Dawn of<br>Man. Once one= of the "Pennsylvania"
> Cooleys tests, we'll be able to place<br>him along t=
> hat continuum of SNPs. It wouldn't be a precise measurement,<br>but it
> shou= ld tell us whether they are closely related (meaning what,
> I'm<br>not sure)=
> or displaced by X number of centuries.<br><br>ONE UNRELATED ITEM: I made
> s= ome changes to my email filters. I'm now<br>getting a lot less spam
> but, it= seems, fewer personal emails, too. I'd<br>like some of you to
> respond to t= his, especially to my personal email<br>address, to get a
> sense whether thi= ngs are working correctly.<br><br>-Michael<br><br>-
> Administrator or Co-Adm=
> inistrator for the following family DNA projects:<br>Akins, Ashenhurst,
> Bis=
> hop, Eldridge, Fisk, alt-McDowell, Cooley,<br>McDougall, Pickens, Strother
> =
> - B.A. Humboldt State University, History,<br>2013 - Instructor, the Osher
> =
> Lifelong Learning Institute (OLLI) at HSU<br><br>--<br><a href=3D"<a
> hre= f=3D"http://newsummer.com/distlist"
> target=3D"_blank">http://newsummer.com/=
> distlist</a>">distlist 0.9b</a><br>See <a
> href=3D"http://johncoole=
> y.net/list" target=3D"_blank">http://johncooley.net/list </a>for list
> infor= mation.<br><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></body></html>
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>
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- Administrator or Co-Administrator for the following family DNA projects:
Akins, Ashenhurst, Bishop, Eldridge, Fisk, alt-McDowell, Cooley,
McDougall, Pickens, Strother - B.A. Humboldt State University, History,
2013 - Instructor, the Osher Lifelong Learning Institute (OLLI) at HSU
Received on Sun Aug 09 2015 - 18:14:41 CDT