Hi Julie,
If I'm reading it right, you're a 5th cousin of Jack's. Although it's
possible, it's unlikely you will have an auDNA match to him. Your mtDNA
would tell you something about Etta Mae Mayo.
-Michael
> Perrin C & Margaret (3x great)
> -- Patrick Albert ( Princes ) Cooley & Etta Mae Mayo ( 1st wife) (great
> grea=
> t)=20
> --- Marie Cooley & Marcus Yates ( great grandmother)
> ----Gita Mae Yates & Harwood Douglas Towner(my grandparents)
> -----Teresa Towner & Erminie Zarra (my parents)
> ------Julie Zarra (me)
>
> So Perrin's granddaughter is my mother's grandmother.=20
>
> My grandmothers brother died in 2011, so the closest generation would be
> my m=
> om and uncle, unless we can find Alberts second family.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 10, 2014, at 1:10 PM, "Michael Cooley" <michael_at_newsummer.com>
> wrote:=
>
>
>> Hi Julie,
>>=20
>> Reminds us how you descend from Perrin C.
>>=20
>> -Michael
>>=20
>>> How exciting!=3D20
>>> It would be do nice to finally know how we fit! If a test from me ( or
>>> mom o=3D
>>> r uncle Mike) would help I'd be glad to do so. I think the female link
>>> i=
> s
>>> w=3D
>>> hat hinders us though.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>=20
>>> On Apr 9, 2014, at 4:26 PM, "Michael Cooley" <michael_at_newsummer.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>=20
>>>> Yes! Please do. Send them to michael_at_newsummer.com, rather than to the
>>>> lis=3D
>>> t.
>>>> =3D20
>>>> I still don't have Jack's results, but I can run Joel's against
>>>> Gloria's.
>>>> Of course, there's always the chance that the match will not show up.
>>>> I'm
>>>> looking forward to it, though.
>>>> =3D20
>>>> -Michael
>>>> =3D20
>>>>> Michael,
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> Joel and I did finally test at 23andME and we received the results in
>>>>> March.=3D3D
>>>>> As you recall, Joel is Jack's paternal uncle. Would his results
>>>>> help
>>>>> you=3D3D
>>>>> regarding the mysterious Perrin C. and the DNA connection between
>>>>> Jack
>>>>> and G=3D3D
>>>>> loria?
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> We know you are busy these next weeks but let us know if we can send
>>>>> you
>>>>> Joe=3D3D
>>>>> l's results.
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> Thanks for your continued interest and musings on Greatgrandfather
>>>>> Perrin=3D
>>>=20
>>>>> C.=3D3D
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> Nancy and Joel Cooley
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> On Apr 9, 2014, at 5:04 PM, "Michael Cooley" <michael_at_newsummer.com>
>>>>>> wrote=3D3D
>>>>> :
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> It occurred to me that there's another place that Perrin C Cooley
>>>>>> might
>>>>>> fit -- and it might best explain the auDNA match between his
>>>>>> descendant,=3D
>>>=20
>>>>>> Jack, and Gloria Tanner: Could Perrin have been a child of John's
>>>>>> (later=3D
>>>=20
>>>>>> married Martha Bearden)? John's children were listed on his
>>>>>> brother's
>>>>>> (James) probate, but the only Perrin listed was John's brother --
>>>>>> who
>>>>>> we=3D
>>>=20
>>>>>> have long believed to be Perrin Jr.
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> But might Perrin C have been disinherited for one reason or another?
>>>>>> Might=3D3D
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> he have been illegitimate? (We already suspect that John had issues
>>>>>> over=3D
>>>=20
>>>>>> "controlling himself.") All we know for sure about John's age is
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> he=3D
>>>=20
>>>>>> was born before 1810. But he could well have been born just after
>>>>>> 1800,
>>>>>> making it biologically possible. Perhaps he denied being the father.
>>>>>> Or,=3D
>>>=20
>>>>>> perhaps, no one knew where Perrin was in 1858 and he wasn't listed
>>>>>> simply
>>>>>> for that reason.
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> Consider, too, that we find Perrin C living with John's son Edward.
>>>>>> That=3D
>>>=20
>>>>>> they might have been brothers or half-brothers would make sense.
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> And then there's the DNA. The prediction is that Jack and Gloria are
>>>>>> 3-5th=3D3D
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> cousins. If this theory is correct, they would be 4th cousins, which
>>>>>> fits
>>>>>> just right.
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> Gloria's mother is going to take the test. This will first confirm
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> the match *is* on her side. If Jack's father were to test and the
>>>>>> two
>>>>>> (Jacks's father and Gloria's mother) tested as 3rd cousins, then
>>>>>> we'd
>>>>>> be=3D
>>>=20
>>>>>> spot-on.
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> Just some thoughts. We'll see where the testing takes us.
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>> =3D3D20
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>>>>> =3D20
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>>>> =3D20
>>>> =3D20
>>>> --=3D20
>>>> Second VP, the Cooley Family Association of America
>>>> Administrator, the Akins DNA Project
>>>> Administrator, the Ashenhurst DNA Project
>>>> Administrator, the Bishop DNA Project
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>>>> Administrator, the alt-McDowell DNA Project
>>>> Co-Administrator, the Cooley DNA Project
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>>=20
>> --=20
>> Second VP, the Cooley Family Association of America
>> Administrator, the Akins DNA Project
>> Administrator, the Ashenhurst DNA Project
>> Administrator, the Bishop DNA Project
>> Administrator, the Eldridge DNA Project
>> Administrator, the alt-McDowell DNA Project
>> Co-Administrator, the Cooley DNA Project
>> Co-Administrator, the McDougall DNA Project
>> Instructor, the Osher Lifelong Learning Institute (OLLI)
>> B.A. Humboldt State University, History
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Administrator, the Akins DNA Project
Administrator, the Ashenhurst DNA Project
Administrator, the Bishop DNA Project
Administrator, the Eldridge DNA Project
Administrator, the alt-McDowell DNA Project
Co-Administrator, the Cooley DNA Project
Co-Administrator, the McDougall DNA Project
Instructor, the Osher Lifelong Learning Institute (OLLI)
B.A. Humboldt State University, History
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