Re: Perrin C Cooley thoughts

From: Julie <lulerianiel_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 19:26:34 -0700

Jack?
I know I am to Joel, they even had some pics of Albert with my great grandmother.


Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 10, 2014, at 8:16 PM, "Michael Cooley" <michael_at_newsummer.com> wrote:

> Hi Julie,
>
> If I'm reading it right, you're a 5th cousin of Jack's. Although it's
> possible, it's unlikely you will have an auDNA match to him. Your mtDNA
> would tell you something about Etta Mae Mayo.
>
> -Michael
>
>> Perrin C & Margaret (3x great)
>> -- Patrick Albert ( Princes ) Cooley & Etta Mae Mayo ( 1st wife) (great
>> grea=
>> t)=20
>> --- Marie Cooley & Marcus Yates ( great grandmother)
>> ----Gita Mae Yates & Harwood Douglas Towner(my grandparents)
>> -----Teresa Towner & Erminie Zarra (my parents)
>> ------Julie Zarra (me)
>>
>> So Perrin's granddaughter is my mother's grandmother.=20
>>
>> My grandmothers brother died in 2011, so the closest generation would be
>> my m=
>> om and uncle, unless we can find Alberts second family.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 10, 2014, at 1:10 PM, "Michael Cooley" <michael_at_newsummer.com>
>> wrote:=
>>
>>
>>> Hi Julie,
>>> =20
>>> Reminds us how you descend from Perrin C.
>>> =20
>>> -Michael
>>> =20
>>>> How exciting!=3D20
>>>> It would be do nice to finally know how we fit! If a test from me ( or
>>>> mom o=3D
>>>> r uncle Mike) would help I'd be glad to do so. I think the female link
>>>> i=
>> s
>>>> w=3D
>>>> hat hinders us though.
>>>> =20
>>>> =20
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> =20
>>>> On Apr 9, 2014, at 4:26 PM, "Michael Cooley" <michael_at_newsummer.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> =20
>>>>> Yes! Please do. Send them to michael_at_newsummer.com, rather than to the
>>>>> lis=3D
>>>> t.
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> I still don't have Jack's results, but I can run Joel's against
>>>>> Gloria's.
>>>>> Of course, there's always the chance that the match will not show up.
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> looking forward to it, though.
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> -Michael
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> Michael,
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> Joel and I did finally test at 23andME and we received the results in
>>>>>> March.=3D3D
>>>>>> As you recall, Joel is Jack's paternal uncle. Would his results
>>>>>> help
>>>>>> you=3D3D
>>>>>> regarding the mysterious Perrin C. and the DNA connection between
>>>>>> Jack
>>>>>> and G=3D3D
>>>>>> loria?
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> We know you are busy these next weeks but let us know if we can send
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> Joe=3D3D
>>>>>> l's results.
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> Thanks for your continued interest and musings on Greatgrandfather
>>>>>> Perrin=3D
>>>> =20
>>>>>> C.=3D3D
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> Nancy and Joel Cooley
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>> On Apr 9, 2014, at 5:04 PM, "Michael Cooley" <michael_at_newsummer.com>
>>>>>>> wrote=3D3D
>>>>>> :
>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>> It occurred to me that there's another place that Perrin C Cooley
>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>> fit -- and it might best explain the auDNA match between his
>>>>>>> descendant,=3D
>>>> =20
>>>>>>> Jack, and Gloria Tanner: Could Perrin have been a child of John's
>>>>>>> (later=3D
>>>> =20
>>>>>>> married Martha Bearden)? John's children were listed on his
>>>>>>> brother's
>>>>>>> (James) probate, but the only Perrin listed was John's brother --
>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>> we=3D
>>>> =20
>>>>>>> have long believed to be Perrin Jr.
>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>> But might Perrin C have been disinherited for one reason or another?
>>>>>>> Might=3D3D
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>> he have been illegitimate? (We already suspect that John had issues
>>>>>>> over=3D
>>>> =20
>>>>>>> "controlling himself.") All we know for sure about John's age is
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> he=3D
>>>> =20
>>>>>>> was born before 1810. But he could well have been born just after
>>>>>>> 1800,
>>>>>>> making it biologically possible. Perhaps he denied being the father.
>>>>>>> Or,=3D
>>>> =20
>>>>>>> perhaps, no one knew where Perrin was in 1858 and he wasn't listed
>>>>>>> simply
>>>>>>> for that reason.
>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>> Consider, too, that we find Perrin C living with John's son Edward.
>>>>>>> That=3D
>>>> =20
>>>>>>> they might have been brothers or half-brothers would make sense.
>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>> And then there's the DNA. The prediction is that Jack and Gloria are
>>>>>>> 3-5th=3D3D
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>> cousins. If this theory is correct, they would be 4th cousins, which
>>>>>>> fits
>>>>>>> just right.
>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>> Gloria's mother is going to take the test. This will first confirm
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> the match *is* on her side. If Jack's father were to test and the
>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>> (Jacks's father and Gloria's mother) tested as 3rd cousins, then
>>>>>>> we'd
>>>>>>> be=3D
>>>> =20
>>>>>>> spot-on.
>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>> Just some thoughts. We'll see where the testing takes us.
>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>>> =3D3D20
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>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> --=3D20
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>>>>> Administrator, the Akins DNA Project
>>>>> Administrator, the Ashenhurst DNA Project
>>>>> Administrator, the Bishop DNA Project
>>>>> Administrator, the Eldridge DNA Project
>>>>> Administrator, the alt-McDowell DNA Project
>>>>> Co-Administrator, the Cooley DNA Project
>>>>> Co-Administrator, the McDougall DNA Project
>>>>> Instructor, the Osher Lifelong Learning Institute (OLLI)
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>>> Administrator, the Akins DNA Project
>>> Administrator, the Ashenhurst DNA Project
>>> Administrator, the Bishop DNA Project
>>> Administrator, the Eldridge DNA Project
>>> Administrator, the alt-McDowell DNA Project
>>> Co-Administrator, the Cooley DNA Project
>>> Co-Administrator, the McDougall DNA Project
>>> Instructor, the Osher Lifelong Learning Institute (OLLI)
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>
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> Second VP, the Cooley Family Association of America
> Administrator, the Akins DNA Project
> Administrator, the Ashenhurst DNA Project
> Administrator, the Bishop DNA Project
> Administrator, the Eldridge DNA Project
> Administrator, the alt-McDowell DNA Project
> Co-Administrator, the Cooley DNA Project
> Co-Administrator, the McDougall DNA Project
> Instructor, the Osher Lifelong Learning Institute (OLLI)
> B.A. Humboldt State University, History
>
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