RE: Big Y ordered

From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com>
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 16:03:47 -0700

Good to hear from you, Dave.

As you know, the Adair County Cooleys match one another but do not match
the CF01 clan. Moreover, you're R1b, not R1a. One of the testers from CF13
should take the new R1b backbone test ($79). It will give nothing like the
resolution the Big Y gives, but it's a start and will begin to
differentiate your line from the other R1b's (most Cooleys). I'd be
willing to out up $20 for that.

-Michael



On Sat, August 8, 2015 22:11, Dave Lewis wrote:
> Hi Michael.
>
>
> Responding per your request, but I also have a question as to whether any
> of this will help us on the John Cooley/Annis Harding line?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Dave
>
>
> Dave Lewis
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Cooley [mailto:michael_at_newsummer.com]
> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 7:36 PM
> To: John Cooley Mailing List
> Subject: Big Y ordered
>
>
> I've ordered the Big Y, more than 10 million positions are tested looking
> for newly discovered SNPs (mutations). The Y-STRs we've looked at are
> great for determining general family groupings. We now know without
> reservation, for example, that our Cooley clan is not related to the
> Benjamin clan. But
> they don't tell us to what degree the Pennsylvania CF01s are related to
> us. We know from the Hackett results that the connection may go back
> several hundred years, perhaps more than a thousand.
>
> I've provided a graph I hope will aid in the understanding of this:
>
>
> http://ancestraldata.com/staging/cooley-hackett-SNP.html
>
>
> Just like genealogical trees, every point branches out, eventually
> resembling a tangled network than a hierarchical tree. But here we're
> following one branch down to about 1250 AD when the Cooley/Hackett line
> splits into two.
>
> The SNPs in the pink box were unknown until the Cooley/Hackett tests.
> More
> testers from other lineages are needed to discover how they are to be
> arranged (did YP4249 mutate before or after YP4210?). From all that we
> know about the relationship between Don and myself, I will have those same
> SNPs.
>
>
> But here's the good part: Most of the SNPs above Don's name also came to
> him through John, having came to John, in turn, since the development of
> the "pink" SNPs. (We know that because the Hackett tester has none of
> them.) When I test, most of my SNPs that are other than the pink and above
> will look like Don's unknown SNPs. Those we share will be given names
> and will be assigned as having belonged to John. We will then have a long
> line from way back to the birth of John. What's left will have come down
> to Don or me since the birth of John's sons James and Edward,
> respectively.
>
> What will this mean to our research? We'll have a list of markers from
> 1950 (my birth) and 1952 (Don's birth) going back to the literal Dawn of
> Man. Once one of the "Pennsylvania" Cooleys tests, we'll be able to place
> him along that continuum of SNPs. It wouldn't be a precise measurement,
> but it should tell us whether they are closely related (meaning what, I'm
> not sure) or displaced by X number of centuries.
>
> ONE UNRELATED ITEM: I made some changes to my email filters. I'm now
> getting a lot less spam but, it seems, fewer personal emails, too. I'd
> like some of you to respond to this, especially to my personal email
> address, to get a sense whether things are working correctly.
>
> -Michael
>
>
> - Administrator or Co-Administrator for the following family DNA
> projects:
> Akins, Ashenhurst, Bishop, Eldridge, Fisk, alt-McDowell, Cooley,
> McDougall,
> Pickens, Strother - B.A. Humboldt State University, History,
> 2013 - Instructor, the Osher Lifelong Learning Institute (OLLI) at HSU
>
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- Administrator or Co-Administrator for the following family DNA projects:
Akins, Ashenhurst, Bishop, Eldridge, Fisk, alt-McDowell, Cooley,
McDougall, Pickens, Strother - B.A. Humboldt State University, History,
2013 - Instructor, the Osher Lifelong Learning Institute (OLLI) at HSU
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